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This Month's Posts: A Passion for Resurrecting a Dead Language · Mistaking a Toponymic for a Patronymic · Semitic-Influenced Conlangs · Evolution of a Blog · Tabling A Motion For Redesigned Tables · In An Abu-ga-ida, Baby · Just One Look, That's All It Took · Some Writing Systems are Real Characters · Nowa Mowa · ABCs of ABCs · Headliners · Volunteers Needed for Help with New Feature · Words of Magic · Name Cheese · Langmaker: Constructed Language, Omniglot: Constructed Alphabet · Pirates of Dark Water · Penguins & Polar Bears, Oh My · The New "New Nonsense" · Meta-tutorial · ABCs of New Alphabet Section · Thanks to David J. Peterson · XML & Langmaker.com · Appy Polly Loggy · More Whistling in the Dark · Logorrhea · Directory Page Views · Pompatus and Circumstance

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A Passion for Resurrecting a Dead Language - 2/26/04 - 9:06 pm
Cary Darling writes about a professional conlanger in today's Star Telegram:
Leave it to pop culture -- and Mel Gibson -- to revive a couple of dead languages…. Gibson's controversial film The Passion of the Christ, opening today, utilizes two tongues from way back in the day: Latin and Aramaic…. the Aramaic spoken today, called the Eastern group of dialects, is different from the Aramaic spoken by Jesus Christ, dubbed the Western group, a branch that is considered extinct. That made it difficult for [the Rev. William] Fulco to translate the Passion script, as no one really knows how Jesus spoke. "We don't know much about ancient Aramaic," says Fulco, who stitched together a language from a variety of sources, including the Old Testament of Daniel, fourth-century Syriac and Hebrew. "Almost every town had a different dialect. I created a possible reconstruction and had to coach all the actors."

Mistaking a Toponymic for a Patronymic - 2/26/04 - 12:54 pm
Kalina writes in, "I was disappointed to find that Polish names formed with -ski/-ska (as in the given example Jaruzelski) are called patronymics [in Gymnastics with Onomastics], while they [did not originally] refer to a person's father but to a person's 'home town'. So if some nobleman was called John Zamoyski it meant not that his father's name was Zamoy, but that he owned a village or town Zamosc." Thanks for pointing that out; I've updated the page.

Semitic-Influenced Conlangs - 2/25/04 - 12:32 pm
John Schilke asks, "Are there any conlangs based primarily on Arabic or Hebrew (structurally, lexically, or by script, or all)?" Yes, in fact 19 language profiles mention Arabic and 18 mention Hebrew.

Evolution of a Blog - 2/24/04 - 12:25 pm
Some theorize that blogs evolved out of change logs. Here's a visible example of how Langmaker followed this evolutionary path: a 1999 change log.

Tabling A Motion For Redesigned Tables - 2/23/04 - 12:14 pm
If any of you out there have web-design skills, I'm looking for an improved graphics design of the ubiquitous table that I use in all the directories (Furbish example, West of Eden example). (Yes, I'm using "table" in the British sense of putting something up for discussion, not the opposite American sense of shelving it.) Contact me. Thanks!

In An Abu-ga-ida, Baby - 2/22/04 - 11:39 am
In an Abu-ga-ida, baby
You know that I'm loving you
In an Abu-ga-ida, honey
You know I'll always be true.


Ahem. Mattias Persson asks why I use the term abugida instead of alphasyllabary to describe a "regular syllabary", where symbols are regularly comprised of consonant and vowel glyphs (as opposed to a syllabary, where symbols have no necessary correlation to vowels or consonants). The term alphasyllabary is only used on 61 web pages, according to Google, where its synonym abugida is used on 599 pages -- so I opted for abugida, baby.

Just One Look, That's All It Took - 2/21/04 - 11:14 am
Leo Moser has pointed out that OneLook.com is one of the best online dictionaries available -- it actually acts as a gateway into almost a thousand separate dictionaries.

Some Writing Systems are Real Characters - 2/20/04 - 10:42 am
John Quijada wrote, "Congratulations on the great new Alphabets section [just renamed Neographies to be clearer]. Recently you added my conlang, Ithkuil, to your site. Ithkuil uses a unique "morpho-phonemic" script which I'm wondering whether to submit to your Alphabets section, since it would be the only such script of its type. However, because there are over 3600 characters, and the script is already part of an established conlang, I'm uncertain whether it qualifies."

By all means, anyone should feel free to submit a writing system, whether it is for a new conlang or an established one. For syllabaries, ideographies and logographies with many symbols, you will need to prepare a graphic that provides a representative sample of the characters in your writing system.

Nowa Mowa - 2/19/04 - 3:25 pm
Langmaker.com specifically and conlanging generally is mentioned in the Polish magazine Wiedza i Zycie in article by Dorota Gut called "Nowa mowa" ("New tongue"). Only the table of contents is online, though. Not that I read Polish anyway! Everybody altogether now, sing, "It's a small world after all, it's a small world after all, it's a small world after all, To jest maly, maly s'wiatem po tym, jak caly..."

ABCs of ABCs - 2/19/04 - 10:09 am
Thinking of adding your Alphabet to the writing-system directory here? These are the different types of writing systems:
  • Abjad - symbol for each consonant
  • Alphabet - symbol for each consonant and vowel
  • Abugida - symbol for each base-vowel syllable (systematically changed for other vowels)
  • Syllabary - symbol for each syllable
  • Ideography - symbol for each word or morpheme
  • Logography - symbol for each word
Obviously some systems can mix and match features from different types (for instance, "&" is a logogram in a principally alphabetic system); when filling out the form, select the primary mode of your script.

Headliners - 2/18/04 - 9:45 am
I no longer run every new submission posted as a headline on the home page. This is mainly so that I can still add languages to the index, while not wasting your time highlighting languages that are still very much in development (few details, web sites mainly consisting of links to "under construction" pages, etc.). If you want to increase the likelihood I run your language submission or update as a headline, then create compelling sites. While no one can start with a classic like Ilaini, Teonaht or Verdurian, with some work you can create a compelling new entrant like Quya.

Volunteers Needed for Help with New Feature - 2/17/04 - 8:24 pm
I'm looking for people to volunteer to review the profiles of five model languages I send them (should take a half hour). I have a new site idea in mind, but I'll need some help to pull it off. Your reward is to get your name mentioned in lights (well, on this page anyway), to get a sneak preview of a new feature and to learn some behind-the-scenes tips that I won't be publishing here. Contact me if you're up to the task.

Words of Magic - 2/17/04 - 9:12 am
After reading a Fantast's Scroll post on chirography, I invented the word grammomancy, on analogy with the following WordNet definitions:
  • divination, foretelling, soothsaying, fortune telling - the art or gift of prophecy (or the pretense of prophecy) by supernatural means
  • dowse, dowsing, rhabdomancy - searching for underground water or minerals by using a dowsing rod
  • geomancy - divination by means of signs connected with the earth (as points taken at random or the arrangement of particles thrown down at random or from the configuration of a region and its relation to another)
  • hydromancy - divination by water (as by patterns seen in the ebb and flow of the tides)
  • lithomancy - divination by means of stones or stone talismans
  • necromancy - conjuring up the dead, especially for prophesying
  • oneiromancy - divination through the interpretation of dreams
  • onomancy - divination by the letters of a name
  • palmistry, palm reading, chiromancy, chirology - telling fortunes by lines on the palm of the hand
  • pyromancy - divination by fire or flames

Name Cheese - 2/16/04 - 10:05 am
When creating your own conculture, it also helps to look for inspiration to real human history. Here's a classic tale of a multilingual country and how it chose its name from a dead language. If you had invented a history like this, your readers would have considered it unrealistic.

Langmaker: Constructed Language, Omniglot: Constructed Alphabet - 2/15/04 - 10:58 am
Nev the Deranged asks if there is an analogous site to Langmaker.com devoted to invented alphabets. Of course there is! Omniglot offers a detailed guide to writing systems, including constructed writing systems.

Pirates of Dark Water - 2/14/04 - 11:23 am
Nev the Deranged writes in:
One of the shows I watched as a kid was "Pirates of Dark Water". The characters on that show spoke English most of the time, but they frequently cursed in the native tongue of Mer, the world they inhabited. Here is a dictionary of these Merian phrases as well as names of places, creatures, and characters.

I thought you might enjoy it, and perhaps there is enough there to make an entry for Merian for the site. The owner of the PoDW site is well versed, and might be happy to contribute.

On a personal note, I'm not sure I agree with some of the spellings she offers, but as no direct information from Hanna Barbera exists to my knowledge, I wouldn't contest her on it, seeing as how she's obviously a much bigger fan than I am.

Penguins & Polar Bears, Oh My - 2/13/04 - 11:26 am
Clint Jackson Baker pointed out that I was wrong to list the penguin as an animal of the South Pole in the collaborative word list, Animal Ideas for Country and Region Names. While penguins do live in Antarctica, he pointed out, "ironically, the only things living at the South Pole are scientists." In a separate note he also pointed out, "Polar bear is perfect for Greenland, as it is the only item on the Greenlandic coat-of-arms."

The New "New Nonsense" - 2/12/04 - 11:23 am
JC suggested a few new words for Nevbosh (a language by one of Tolkien's cousins, with modest contributions by Tolkien himself):
bal
[< Nevbosh pal, "say".] speak.
balt
said.
baln
saying.
velgom
old man.
velgoma
old woman.

Meta-tutorial - 2/11/04 - 11:40 am
Doodgeman asks:
How would you write up a course for a model language, or any language for that matter? I've tried writing up a course for my model language, but I just don't know where to begin.
I haven't seen a meta-tutorial (a tutorial for creating tutorials!). The best I can recommend is to copy a good model. My favorite is the old Toki Pona tutorial, which is no longer on the Toki Pona site but is archived.

ABCs of New Alphabet Section - 2/10/04 - 4:51 pm
For a long time the hallmark of Langmaker.com has been the Model Language and Babel Text directories, though gradually I expanded the number of collections.
  • In February 2002, I realized that I needed a list of conlang resources; a collection of links to pages that weren't just languages or Babel Text translations. From a humble beginning of just seven links, the Resource collection has grown into 78 resources.
  • In March 2002, I realized that thanks to David Salo's Bibliotheca Sagittari, I had a ready-made directory of conlang-related books and videos, which formed the kernel of the Books directory (in fact, David has entered 141 books out of the 168-item collection; come on, add a book!).
  • In April 2002, I realized that "Weaver's Dictionary of Verbifications", a short faux dictionary that I wrote in high school, could form the kernel of a New English directory of invented words (and, in fact, I have entered 96 words of the 651-item collection, of which 51 words were from the original collection). It quickly became the second-most popular feature of the site after the Model Languages directory.
And with the New English collection making five directories, there the number of directories has remain fixed for the past 22 months.

Back in December 2003, I began a productive e-mail exchange with Mattias Persson, who first wrote in to tell me, "I love writing systems, and I often look for updates at Langmaker and at Simon Ager's Omniglot". In a hobby comprised of unique individuals, Mattias stands out for his singular devotion to inventing writing systems. His site features six of his writing systems, but it turns out he's invented over 60 scripts, yet finds it too hard to keep his site updated. When I realized that Omniglot, a site I love, prefers to list only distinctive constructed writing systems, I realized that a win-win-win situation would be for Langmaker to add a directory of constructed writing systems: a win for Langmaker.com, because it adds a visually attractive section to the web site; a win for Mattias, because it makes it easier for him to share his work and easier for him to see other's scripts; and a win for Omniglot.com, which concentrates on providing a wonderful overview of natural-language scripts with highlights from some famous constructed scripts.

I've decided to call the section Alphabets, because that is shorter than "Writing Systems" and less ambiguous than "Scripts"; the term "Alphabet" is often used generically to mean any writing system, though it also used specifically to distinguish alphabets from abjads, abugidas, syllabaries, and ideographies. Please add your own writing system to our new directory!

I'm proud to dedicate the new Alphabet directory to Mattias Persson, in celebration of his dedication to constructed alphabets.


Thanks to David J. Peterson - 2/10/04 - 2:41 pm
I really want to thank David J. Peterson for spending hours helping me jumpstart the new Alphabet section of Langmaker. He wrote a detailed description of his Züþey Veskay script and created new images just for the profile here. His detailed profile of Züþey Veskay is meant to be used as a model for you to copy when you submit your own writing systems.

XML & Langmaker.com - 2/10/04 - 11:39 am
Aaron asks:
I am writing a website for a constructed language in XML. I noticed that Langmaker.com is written partly or wholly in XML. My question is: how does one create a link in XML to a specific page using CSS?
I actually don't think you want to create a site in XML. You want to create a site in HTML where the HTML references a CSS. The XSL language for transforming XML is quite complicated, and is not the technique you see on sites today (XSL is to XML what CSS is to HTML).

Static pages on Langmaker.com are published using GlobalSCAPE Web Site Builder (originally created by Dan Bricklin, co-inventor of the spreadsheet). Dynamic pages (the "/db/*" pages) are generated from data files containing the information about each language, Babel Text, New English definition, etc. and using a custom program I wrote.

The only XML file on the site is the RSS feed, which is used to syndicate recent changes to the site using a news reader or a blogging service such as LiveJournal.

Appy Polly Loggy - 2/09/04 - 12:20 pm
A sincere apology to everyone who is disappointed that I don't process their submissions to the site more frequently or keep them better informed about their submissions. This site is just a mad hobby, and I typically let submissions pile up until some evening when I should be writing a presentation for work, I procrastinate by updating the site instead.

Items typically pile up in my In Box for two weeks, then I chose which items to publish, then edit them and schedule them to be released over the next two weeks. This gives the site the illusion that I work on it every day, and it gives you a reason to come visit each day. Unfortunately this means it can take two to four weeks before your item is featured on the home page.

Even worse, if I reject your submission, I don't tell you. I really find writing rejection notices unpleasant. I don't tend to publish submissions for resources that are new (e.g., forums with few messages, newsletters with few issues); I prefer to wait for something to be established before sending traffic to it. I typically reject model languages if no link is included, or the site doesn't have much information. Whether or not I accept a New English word almost comes down to a whim; I look for words that are well made and useful and could actually become used; I reject words that are just borrowings from conlangs.

I also don't really have time to comment in depth on anyone's specific language. I can barely keep up with the number of submissions to Langmaker.com these days (225 in my In Box as I began updating the site this round). Your best bet for comments is to join one of the mailing lists I reference in the Resource section.

To save myself time, I've written my own software application to maintain the site, relieving me of much of the tedium. As I expand this program, I can serve you better. At some point, I will add a submissions-processing client with a "Reject" button that will give the reason a submission is rejected and that will tell you when a submission will be published. I just don't know when I will get around to that.

I used to actually spend most of my conlanging time inventing languages; now I spend almost no time inventing languages because the site requires so much work. Don't get me wrong; I love Langmaker.com, and I'm pleased so many of you visit. And I appreciate everyone who contributes, especially those who contribute regularly.

Thanks for proving once and for all that the secret vice is no longer secret.

More Whistling in the Dark - 2/08/04 - 12:47 pm
Eragon writes in:
Someone was asking about more information on Silbo Gomera, as I recall, on your site. This article isn't specifically about that language, but does have information on whistling languages in general.
I originally listed Silbo Gomera here thinking it just had to be intentionally invented. Now I wonder if it was not simply a natural language with tones where over time all sounds but the tones were lost.

Logorrhea - 2/08/04 - 10:43 am
I was pretty sick of the old Langmaker logo:

It dates back to 1996, when the site was hosted on Compuserve, before I had registered my own domain name. It refers to the electronic newsletter I wrote that was the inspiration for this site.

It was past time for a new logo:

This new one is simpler, and matches the favicon I've been using for a while, which was drawn by Rhett Ransom Pennell (I commissioned him to do some artwork for a game I hope to eventually release).

The font in the logo is bold Koblenz Regular Italic.

Directory Page Views - 2/08/04 - 12:03 am
I was curious about how much of the web traffic was made up of pages from each directory.

Model Languages46%
New English23%
Babel Texts12%
Books9%
Resources7%

Based on this, I re-ordered the navigation bar at the top in terms of this priority.

Pompatus and Circumstance - 2/07/04 - 12:59 pm
Greg Paton reflects on pompatus:
If I recollect correctly, Miller sung of the "pompetus" of love... therefore I would suggest he meant something along the lines of the pomposity it eschews, and the benefits it gives - thereby attempting to encapsulate all in a single phrase, statement, or notion. Don't we all. Try Alex Connell (very difficult to track down) - he was the 1st to play Millers recording 2 me. Maybe he knows better - if anyone can find him - would be really delighted to hear from him. That having been said to contextualise 'pompetus' into a working OED I'd say something along the lines of: "Sarah said I'm me. Sod everything else. Just love me for what I am. Escape from the pompetus..." Imagine an imaginary Sarah saying that to you. To hell with the pompetus...enough. By the way should it be spelled "pompetus" or pompatus" ? Interested - over 2 U.
StraightDope has a classic analysis of the probable origins of the word.

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