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This Month's Posts: Batty for Naming Regions · Martian Jargonauts · The Oy of Lex · Software Lists, Where? · New Name for Alphabet Section · Kalivoda & Kalisise · Chattanooga Conlang Chew · Klingonline · Google's #1 Conlang Site Not Updated Since 1998 · Ithkuil ith Kool · More Quenya Learners than Language Inventors · Rhymes with Metrosexual · User Friendly is Conlanger Friendly · Elvish has Left the Building · Old Man Sallow · Elvish Lives! · Bearing Names

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Batty for Naming Regions - 3/28/04 - 1:48 pm
New suggestions for geographic names derived from animals. J. Y. S. Czhang suggested sloth for Amazonia and the tropical fruit bat for the South Pacific. Wonder Al suggested the badger for Wisconsin (the state animal) and the Pitcairn Islands warbler for… well, I'll let you guess for where.

Martian Jargonauts - 3/27/04 - 2:13 pm
Jian Ying J. pointed out an article on NASA Mars-Speak. It's not Barsoomian, but the shorthand jargon used for discussing the Martian rovers.

The Oy of Lex - 3/26/04 - 3:00 pm
David Peterson writes:
As for Kamakawi, it doesn't have an online dictionary, no, nor will any of my languages ever have one. I really think they're a waste of time, since none of the online dictionaries I've ever seen are as thorough/rigorous as the dictionaries I keep on my computer, and I don't even think mine are sufficient. Plus, I go through and add definitions, change definitions, change words, etc., all the time. I just don't think it would be practical. I was thinking of doing the following, though:
  • Adding the Swadesh list for all my languages (Wikipedia has a good ready-made table to do this).
  • Adding a language map (this was an idea I got when I found a language map in an odd shop on the Hawaiian language. It folds up like a map, but it has lists of words separated into categories: Animals, foods, greetings, cultural stuff, etc. I thought this would be neat to do for my languages, though I'm not sure how exactly to format it yet.
I think I've done a lousy job with the dictionaries for most of my languages, so I understand where David's coming from. The one language I did do a good job on, and it took a lot of work, was Dublex:.

Software Lists, Where? - 3/25/04 - 3:52 pm
Micah Webb wrote, "I was wondering so you possess computer software that allows a user to give a set of parameters for making languages and/or allows you to work with the software in generating vocabulary? I have been looking on the net for such software, since I am making several languages for some science fiction I am writing. Also, is it possible to find a program that will allow me to make my own unique characters? I am not really fond of making a language that does not have its own unique character symbols."

Among the resources posted here, you will find a list of lang.-making software and a list of font-making software. For font making, though, the most affordable application is Font Creator Program.

New Name for Alphabet Section - 3/24/04 - 4:22 pm
I keep forgetting to thank Fen Yik for nudging me to change the name of the Alphabets section to something that wouldn't also refer to one type of writing system. We thought neography made a nice change.

Kalivoda & Kalisise - 3/23/04 - 5:21 pm
Nick Kalivoda wrote in with three questions.
I frequently visit this site. I've been working on my own model language for some time now, and I think I'm ready to post it on the Web. A long time ago I made a site for it, but that was when the lexicon was small, and since then the entire language has undergone major revisions. I was wondering a few things before I submit it.
  1. First off, do you know of any good free services for making sites?
  2. Second, what can I do to make sure no one steals my work?
  3. And also, I'm curious as to how many words you think a language should have to be really worth communicating with? So far I have 1616, not counting every form of each verb or inflected noun.

Glad you enjoy the site! Some answers:

  1. GeoCities, Tripod and Angelfire are the most popular free sites among conlangers.
  2. You own an implicit copyright to your language. You can make it explicit by providing a notice of copyright. It's unlikely anyone is going to copy it. There are thousands of other languages to copy from, after all.
  3. Well, Kali-sise has over 5,000 words, yet that it still wasn't enough when I wrote the Kali-sise Babel Text (oops!), but if you make sure you have enough common roots then you can make new words as you need them. After all Esperanto only started out with about 800 words, yet that proved enough to grow with the times (it has perhaps 50,000 today).

Chattanooga Conlang Chew - 3/22/04 - 10:33 pm
Tim wrote in, "Thank you! Your site has given me new inspiration. I had actually been working on a model language for several months, not knowing exactly what I was doing. I mentioned it to my mother, who referred me to an article in the Chattanooga Times-Free Press [by Cary Darling] on model languages she had just read the previous day! It mentioned your site, and here I am. I never knew anyone else did this besides those who created Esperanto and Klingon. I have heard before of people creating new words, but I am working on a full-functioning Middle Eastern-inspired language just for fun. Now I know that I am not alone! Hetmathei! (Goodbye!)" It's so nice to hear from you, Tim. I remember exactly how I felt when I found out there were others doing this. I created the site specifically for people like us. I also encourage you to join the CONLANG mailing list or one of the other mailing lists. There's lots of us to talk to!

Klingonline - 3/22/04 - 4:36 pm
Janis Leo wants to find an online translation lexicon between English and Klingon. Because the books describing the Klingon language are still in print, though, you'll need to purchase or borrow The Klingon Dictionary or Klingon for the Galactic Traveler. All that is officially online are canonical Klingon words not in these dictionaries.

Google's #1 Conlang Site Not Updated Since 1998 - 3/22/04 - 2:06 pm
OK, if you go to Google, type "conlang" and click "I'm Feeling Lucky", you get taken to a site that hasn't been updated since 1998. In an effort to change this, please take a moment to add the following link from your site to my site:
<a href="/">Conlang Profiles at Langmaker.com</a>
Thanks!

Ithkuil ith Kool - 3/21/04 - 3:43 pm
John Quijada has created Içtaîl, a fascinating writing system. "Içtaîl (the Ithkuil word for 'hypothetical writing system') is a 'morpho-phonemic' script whose characters convey both phonetic and morphological (i.e., grammatical) information." Check it out!

More Quenya Learners than Language Inventors - 3/19/04 - 3:04 pm
More people have signed up at Yahoo to learn Quenya than have listed their first invented language at Langmaker.com.

YearNew
Quenya
Learners
New
Language
Inventors
1999824
20001832
20012045
200214787
200324665

No, that's not in thousands; that's individuals. :-)

Many more people may have learnt Quenya by the obsolete and inaccurate book Languages Of Tolkien's Middle Earth, but Houghton Mifflin hasn't provided me any sales numbers.

Rhymes with Metrosexual - 3/18/04 - 10:23 am
Hey, a new definition for retrosexual was in the comics today in Rhymes with Orange!

User Friendly is Conlanger Friendly - 3/17/04 - 10:27 pm
The User Friendly comic had an amusing conlang strip last week.

Elvish has Left the Building - 3/14/04 - 7:46 pm
Interesting comments to a BBC article, Do you speak Elf? [sic]. The best comment was:
I really enjoyed The Lord of the Rings and as a translator myself the idea of learning Elvish does appeal to me in a weird sort of way! I think that it is really great that these children want to learn it, because once you have acquired the skills of language learning, it is much easier to pick up another language, thus what they see as a fun pastime could actually turn out to be a big help to them in the future. - Suzy Cox, Xalapa, Veracruz, México
More typical, though, were comments like:

Fun though it may be, I'm always a bit concerned when I hear that someone can speak fluent Elvish/Klingon etc instead of another more vocationally and/or socially advantageous second language like French or German... - Muzzy, Edinburgh, Scotland

Great. Will be really handy when these kids grow up into the real world and need to get jobs. - Helen, Wirral, UK

What an absurd idea. Most of the children I come across can't even speak English, never mind French or German or any other useful language. If grunting is a major element of elf vocabulary, the children should be brilliant at it. - John Buckley, Reading, UK


Old Man Sallow - 3/03/04 - 2:06 pm
The linguistic consultant on The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy was David Salo (Q & A with David). The Wisconsin State Journal did a nice profile of him last year: UW grad student provides translations for Lord of the Rings movies. He did work in Quenya, Sindarin, Neo-Khuzdul and Orkish.

Elvish Lives! - 3/03/04 - 9:41 am
Cary Darling, the Dallas-Fort Worth Star-Telegram Pop Culture Critic, sums up the state of conlanging well.
For anyone speaking in any of the more than 1,000 artificial tongues - languages carved out of someone's word-wise imagination - these are very good times.

`The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King,' the film to beat for Best Picture at Sunday night's Oscars, gives wide exposure to the elf languages of Quenya and Sindarin - collectively known as "Elvish" - concocted by `Ring' author and linguist J.R.R. Tolkien.

Klingon, the guttural tongue of war and weaponry from `Star Trek,' is the subject of a new documentary, `Earthlings,' to be shown at the Cannes Film Festival in May.

And later this year, the Esperantomobilo -- a team of six speakers of Esperanto, one of the oldest invented languages and the most widespread -- will be barnstorming the country extolling the joy of saying "saluton," their version of "hello."

It's just a little taste of sweet victory for invented-language fans, many of whom are linguists, philologists, or amateur enthusiasts who've encountered everything from curiosity and ribbing from onlookers to government censure.

Bearing Names - 3/02/04 - 1:25 pm
Clint Jackson Baker contributes four more suggestions to Animal Ideas for Country and Region Names. "As someone proud of my Scots origin, I would prefer the unicorn for Scotland, as it is associated with the Scottish royal line. I would like to recognize three states with three endangered animals that bear their names: the Florida panther, the California condor and the Indiana bat."

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